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Puppetry Poll

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What should we do?
Option A
24%
 24% [ 12 ]
Option B
26%
 26% [ 13 ]
Option C
36%
 36% [ 18 ]
None
14%
 14% [ 7 ]
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PostSubject: Puppetry Poll   Wed Oct 15, 2008 3:59 pm
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Puppeteers are far in between. Despite their awesomeness in the series and clear strategical advantages, we have few, the only I could name being Kasai.

So, one must wonder...How can we make Puppets more appealing?

Easy. Boost the Puppeteer's power/flexibility.

At the moment, even a Kage Level Puppeteer can only have the following.

Basic Puppets
Human Puppet
One Tai Style
C-rank Visual/Audio Genjutsu

This is really quite small compared to the many skills that other S-ranks have. While Human Puppets are powerful, they are difficult to obtain, and are limited in power.

Thus, I suggest a bonus to Puppeteer. Perhaps not the same level as other S-ranks, but a more fair one.

So, I suggest the following.

A. Make Puppetry not a Ninpo, allowing them to have a Single Element/Ninpo for them to use. This is the simplest and least problematic solution.

B. Increase Ninjutsu limit of Puppeteers to lv.3. This would allow Puppeteers a Sub Element for them to use, less free then making Puppetry not a Ninpo. However, having Lv.3, allows Puppeteers to have access to Forbidden Jutsus, albeit a lower selection. (Note: This could also instead allow a puppeteer any one of the three to be increased, rather then nin.)

C. Increase all Knowledge Skill limit to Lv.3, greatly improving a Puppeteer's skills and allowing them to better cope. While an S-rank Ninja is only Jounin Lv. skill wise, he still has the option of his powerful puppet techs.

Any other suggestions may be made, but this is the basic answers that I have thought over. Each have pros and cons. A is giving element, no Forbids, . B is less powerful element then A, but allows Forbids, while C is basically both, albeit with more Gen and Tai balancement.

I believe the few puppeteers would love any one of these changes, and I'm sure Puppetry would be more sought over if so.


Few things dumb people seem to forget.

A. Human Puppets - Only possible when Jounin, can only be obtained from actually killing the person you wish to create, the Puppet itself can only have six unchangable jutsus, Human Puppets are allowed only as Jounin and higher ninjas(May be subject to change), and you can only use one at a time.

B. Puppetry is a NINPO! - Puppeteer Jutsus are considered an element for Ninjutsu purposes. Some people do not realize this, so, now you know why Puppeteers can't even use elements.

C. Puppetry can be powerful, but you can say that about almost anything.

D. We have only one Puppeteer I can name.

E. Puppetry in general is the least taken skill, seeing as it is the most restrictive, and found the least appealing.

F. This has been discussed in the mod Section. The poll, however, is open to all.
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PostSubject: Re: Puppetry Poll   Wed Oct 15, 2008 6:15 pm
Hmmm... why don't we allow them to CHOOSE which road they want to take? As in they could individually choose which option they want for their char. I mean in RP not in this poll. When they create their char they have to choose one of these paths that you posted up there.

I haven't voted anything yet cus I'm waiting to see the answer to this. Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Puppetry Poll   Thu Oct 16, 2008 2:23 am
I voted C

But here is what i also propose. With the new Bounty Section, why not allow Human Puppets to also be used if they are killed by someone you hired?

This prevents the "Going to a Graveyard and digging up a body" move or "Donation" you still actually have to pay someone, and you must state the purpose in the bounty.

So you can make Human Puppets more accessable, since the user doesn't have to kill someone for the body but can hire someone.
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PostSubject: Re: Puppetry Poll   Thu Oct 16, 2008 10:33 am
The Bounty kill obtainment would be allowed, seeing as Graveyard digging isn't allowed regardless. I feel that it would benefit the Bounty Area.

As for "choose which road" I'm assuming you mean Option B?

Because honestly...if you could choose any of the options...C would be obvious best for puppeteer.
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PostSubject: Re: Puppetry Poll   Thu Oct 16, 2008 10:35 am


yeah, I chose B because it is the most even for everyone, including the puppeteers.
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PostSubject: Re: Puppetry Poll   Thu Oct 16, 2008 11:37 am
I chose B but like I already said I think it should be able to be a level 3 in which ever KS you want.
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PostSubject: Re: Puppetry Poll   Thu Oct 16, 2008 2:23 pm
i voted A. puppeteers should be able to use an element
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PostSubject: Re: Puppetry Poll   Thu Oct 16, 2008 2:58 pm
I've already stated my qualms, although I think they were deleted in the forum wipe.

I believe puppeteers are extremely powerful as is, just overwhelmingly misused.

This boost will make them far too powerful, in my mind, but, all the better for me to abuse if I ever die...

I voted for none o.o
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PostSubject: Re: Puppetry Poll   Fri Oct 17, 2008 5:46 am
I vote B...nuff said.
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PostSubject: Re: Puppetry Poll   Wed Oct 22, 2008 12:45 pm
Surprisingly...Puppeteers having all 3 skills allowed to level 3 is voted the most, with Puppeteers having 1 skill to level 3 following close in second, and I'm pleased to see, none having the least.

Therefore...There are two ways we could do this. One - Flat out do C.

Or two...Allow 2 skills up to level 3 would be a compromise.
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PostSubject: Re: Puppetry Poll   Wed Oct 22, 2008 12:50 pm
Comprimise we don't want Puppeters being to strong O.O
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PostSubject: Re: Puppetry Poll   Wed Oct 22, 2008 12:52 pm
Comprimise ftw
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PostSubject: Re: Puppetry Poll   Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:08 pm
let go in between and have 2 im just glad its something of an upgrade. even only having one go up a new lvl is good. oh and i was just wandering but with the left out KSP can it go in to like the ASP or JP?
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PostSubject: Re: Puppetry Poll   Wed Oct 22, 2008 3:21 pm
One step at a time...

Anyway, if even the Puppeteer is willing to compromise(I say "The" because shes like the only one I can name..and Sasori...So, I lied. big deal.)

Believe or not, I have considered KSP being traded in someway for ASP...

However, I believe 2 levels is more then enough at the moment.

If no last comments to be said, I'll start the write up.
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PostSubject: Re: Puppetry Poll   Thu Oct 23, 2008 5:39 am
Since puppeteers are limited to only a lvl 2 genjutsu knowledge then how are they suppose to defend against genjutsus?

That's why I vote option C or a possibility to trade KSP for ASP in order to buy Genjutsu resistance.
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PostSubject: Re: Puppetry Poll   Thu Oct 23, 2008 7:41 am
lvl 2(or any lvl) in gen for ksp work as gen resistance gen resistance is basically for ppl who want more nin and tai instead
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PostSubject: Re: Puppetry Poll   Sun Jan 04, 2009 9:12 am
Did this ever get resolved? We should possibly look back at it ><

B makes the most sense. C is giving them way too much power and A is a bit too restricting, meaning they could really only do ninjutsu, B gives them the choice.
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PostSubject: Re: Puppetry Poll   Sun Jan 04, 2009 9:30 am
this already got resolved Kazuya lol
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PostSubject: Re: Puppetry Poll   Sun Jan 04, 2009 9:36 am
Is puppetry a Ninpo now?
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PostSubject: Re: Puppetry Poll   Sun Jan 04, 2009 9:39 am
It always been one
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